Live in the good of each conversation

“Live in the good of each conversation.”

—Sue Heatherington, author of Quiet Disruptors: Creating Change Without Shouting

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Every so often I come across the work of someone that touches something deep inside. On occasion, I post comments and write to them directly with my thoughts, and to establish a type of dialogue.

With Sue Heatherington, I took an additional step and requested an actual conversation over Zoom, which she kindly accepted.

After our 70-minute conversation, we both felt we were just getting started. We intend to speak again in the coming months, and will undoubtedly discover much more good in these conversations.


Please investigate Sue’s remarkable work at Perhaps reach out and connect with someone like her in your online communities, to live in the good of a future conversation.

There are very few things as fulfilling as a conversation with another soul

There are very few things as fulfilling as a conversation with another soul.

—Calm App Reflection

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When was the last time you had a soulful conversation? Who was it with? What did you discuss? What was your experience of time and your level of engagement?

If you are like many people, you experience primarily surface conversations that appear like glancing blows with most people.

We are so busy running from here to there looking at our schedules for what’s next that we have habituated a “sound bite” life.


Set up a block of time with at least one person this week for a soulful conversation.

Keep things open-ended and fluid, with limited distractions.

Consider including, coffee, tea or even a homemade meal to add to your mutual enjoyment.

Feel free to let me know how things go.

“If you don’t understand what makes people tick, they won’t tick.”

“If you don’t understand what makes people tick, they won’t tick.”

—Robert Swan — British explorer & the first person to walk to both Poles

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Ever since I can remember I’ve been fascinated by how things work. I distinctly recall, as a child, taking apart a Baby Ben alarm clock to see what was inside that made it tick.

These days, I’m far more interested in what makes the people around me tick, to better discover how to improve my relationships, understand their motivations, and to help bring out their best through my coaching efforts.

Although there are multitudes of tools and assessments to help in this process, I’ve found the simple but often not easy work of collaborative conversations — where seeking to understand and be sincerely interested — works best.


How masterful are you in the art of dialogue and conversation?  Where and with whom would greater skill and practice help you understand what make these people tick even better?